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A Taste of RumSalt: An Original MOA Podcast

Join MOA for a journey of musical discovery from Asia, to Europe and the Americas. Learn about what it takes to create a new album as Vancouver-based musician Alex Morison composes his new album using audio archives and field recordings and collaborates with Indigenous poets and award-winning musicians throughout the process. This bi-monthly podcast is created for audiophiles, the culturally curious, and lovers of the bizarre.

Alex Morison is a composer, multi-instrumentalist, singer, songwriter, producer and sound engineer from Whitehorse, Yukon. His innovative instrumentation, chaotic style, and harsh growling vocals produce haunting and truly unique sounds. He is perhaps best known for his work as the primary composer and lead vocalist for the Montreal-born band, The History of Gunpowder. Outside of the creative world, Morison works with Indigenous communities regarding community wellbeing and health and is a consultant for Indigenizing education initiatives.

In this podcast, Morison will feature work from his new album with The RumSalt Ensemble—a group that was born from a performance in response to MOA’s 2018 exhibition Marking the Infinite: Contemporary Women Artists from Aboriginal Australia. The exhibition featured the works of nine Aboriginal women from different remote regions of Australia whose stunning abstract works invoked the infinite, challenging the very constraints and constructs of time and space. Morison was invited by MOA’s Curator of Public Programming and Engagement, Marie Wustner, to assemble a group of musicians to respond to these other-worldly paintings through improvisational soundscapes. The musicians were challenged to react to these contemporary works in order to create an environment of contemplation and exploration for an intimate performance.

RumSalt is an eclectic ensemble featuring critically acclaimed and envelope-pushing musicians including: JUNO-award winner Meredith Bates on violin; prolific multidisciplinary artist Genevieve Mackay on viola; classically trained, folk musician Franki Lemon on cello; award-winning composer and musician Mike WT Allen on baritone saxophone; experimental blues rocker Nik Focht on percussion; and contemporary improvised music specialist Lyle Hopkins on double bass.

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Episode 4: Hogan’s Alley (October 2020)

In this episode three Vancouverites share their perspective on Hogan’s Alley and its rich history. Vanessa Richards speaks to the “histories we live”. She reads real-life chronicles of Vancouver’s black community members revealing the rhythm and cadence of the early 1900’s. Kevan Anthony Cameron tells of the musical and economic history of Hogan’s Alley, reminding us of the space it holds in the audio files of this city’s roots. Alex Morison narrates the methods of erasure, systemic racism, and its intergenerational impacts on those who suffered from displacement politics.  This is a story of Vancouver’s colorful and complex history of the neighborhood we now call Strathcona.

After listening to our regular podcast please continue on to our essential listening track titled Bonus Episode: Community Voices from the Past.

Artists Referenced

Books Referenced

Interview guests

Vanessa Richards

Committed to the unique history and futurity of people of African descent in British Columbia, Richards was an active member of the City of Vancouver’s Black History Month Citizen’s Advisory Group for six years. She is a former and founding board member of the Hogan’s Alley Society. She is on the advisory committee for the RADIUS Fellowship at Beedie School of Business SFU and is a producer/facilitator for the Social Venture Institute with Hollyhock Leadership Institute and a volunteer mentor for two Black youth co-operatives, Ethọ́s Lab and Solid State.

Kevan Anthony Cameron

Kevan Cameron, also known as Scruffmouth is a spoken poet and musician. In 2013, Kevan Anthony Cameron co-edited the landmark national anthology; The Great Black North: Contemporary African Canadian Poetry. He is the creative director for Black Dot Roots and Culture Collective and a leader in Hogan’s Alley Poetry Festival.

Hogan’s Alley Society

Advocating for Black Vancouverites who have endured the legacies of urban renewal and their erasure from the official historical narrative, the Hogan’s Alley Society (HAS) is a non-profit organization composed of civil rights activists, business professionals, community organizations, artists, writers and academics. HAS seeks to preserve and promote the historical, cultural, societal and economic contributions made by Black Settlers and their descendants to Vancouver, BC and beyond.

Bonus episode: Community Voices from the Past (October 2020)

This special bonus episode accompanies Episode 4: Hogan’s Alley.

In this bonus episode, Community Voices from the Past, listen to first-person accounts read by Vanessa Richards, a descendant of the Trinidadian Calypso movement in Hogan’s Alley. Listen as Richards reads excerpts from Opening Doors in Vancouver’s East End: Strathcona, featuring Dorothy Nealy and Rosa Pryor two women who recount their lives in the early to mid 1900’s amid Hogan’s Alley heyday.

In episode 4: Hogan’s Alley, three Vancouverites share their perspective on Hogan’s Alley and its rich history. Vanessa Richards speaks to the “histories we live”. She reads real-life chronicles of Vancouver’s black community members revealing the rhythm and cadence of the early 1900’s. Kevan Anthony Cameron tells of the musical and economic history of Hogan’s Alley, reminding us of the space it holds in the audio files of this city’s roots. Alex Morison narrates the methods of erasure, systemic racism, and its intergenerational impacts on those who suffered from displacement politics.  This is a story of Vancouver’s colorful and complex history of the neighborhood we now call Strathcona.

Episode 3: Painting the Sisters (August 2020)

The RumSalt Orchestra and this podcast were inspired by the 2018 MOA exhibition Marking The Infinite: Contemporary Women Artists From Aboriginal Australia.

All cultures have artists, but not all cultures hold artists in the same regard. In this episode of A Taste of RumSalt, host Alex Morison explores cultures that revere artists and have practiced creative expression since time immemorial. He delves into the concept of The Dreaming and ancient Songlines from Aboriginal Australian peoples. Dating back 65,000 years, The Dreaming is a concept that has no real translation. It is a creation story that exists on an infinite time continuum and encompasses everything.

In this episode, you will hear the voices of people who live, create and learn in The Dreaming. You will listen to music that has been inspired by thousands of years of tradition, and hear compositions stirred by epic artistic landscapes, creating a stunning resonance.

But first, ask yourself: What does the word “dreaming” mean to you?  What images does your mind conjure when you hear the word “creation”? Human beings take great pride in our ability to communicate through words. Millions of words and thousands of dialects are evolving all the time to meet our need to communicate ideas and therefore understand one another. And yet, so much is lost in translation; so many things cannot be explained with words alone.

How many ways can different cultures describe dreams or creation? What if there are no words to describe some concepts? What if there is no literal translation from one culture to the next? Maybe some things need to be sung. Maybe histories need to be painted. Maybe truths need to be danced. And maybe some things are not for us to know.


Marking the Infinite: Contemporary Women Artists from Aboriginal Australia was a traveling exhibition that featured the work of nine Aboriginal women from different remote regions of Australia. They are revered matriarchs and celebrated artists who are represented in national and international collections. Most of them made their Canadian debut at MOA in 2018 with this breathtaking exhibition,

Marking the Infinite originated at the Nevada Museum of Art and was organized by William Fox, Director of the Centre for Art and Environment, and scholar Henry Skerritt. The exhibition is drawn from the collection of Debra and Dennis Scholl.

Exhibition artists:

Discover the exhibition’s artists that inspired this podcast by virtue of inspiring The RumSalt Orchestra into existence.

Interview guests:

The following special guests were interviewed at MOA on MOA March 17 2018, just before the opening of Marking the Infinite. Marie Wustner, Curator of Public Programs + Engagement at MOA and the Producer of this podcast, was lucky to sit with these internationally-known artists, philanthropists and arts advocates to discuss a great many things including The Dreaming.

Wukun Wanambi is a well-known, award-winning painter from the Marrakulu clan of the Yolnu people. He knows the artists of Marking the Infinite and has been somewhat of a cultural champion for Australian Aboriginal art, having his works presented around the globe.

Ishmael Marika is a young artist and filmmaker from the Yirrkala community in a region from which some of the art of Marking the Infinite comes from. Ishmael promotes language and culture revitalization through his art and documentaries.

Dennis Scholl is a well-known Floridian art collector, philanthropist, and cultural revivalist who has dedicated enormous time, energy and financing into art communities around the world. Dennis and Debra Scholl are the original collectors of the Australian Aboriginal art work displayed in Marking the Infinite.

Kade McDonald is an Australian curator and conduit for multifaceted, multicultural, contemporary art societies. While working in close consultation with Indigenous communities, Kade focuses on cultural enterprise and community development through national and international contemporary art exhibitions and events.

Episode 2: The Sounds of Resistance (July 2020)

Sounds of resistance have echoed around the world for generations, crossing continents and oceans. Their rhythms and cadence inspire the movements that embolden strength and resilience. In this second episode of A Taste of RumSalt, father and daughter Steve and Xhalida September share the history of their families and their intergenerational, international activism for the equal treatment and respect for Black lives. It’s a struggle that spans space and time, from South African apartheid to the Canadian Black Lives Matter movement. Host Alex Morison elaborates on the music of resistance and the uniqueness of Indigenous music in the ongoing battle against systemic racism. Lady Vanessa Cardona, a mestiza Colombian poet, shares words of community organizing and Indigenous independence as a means of resistance and resilience.

References to artists mentioned:

James Brown was American singer, songwriter, dancer, musician and record producer. Known as the ‘Godfather of Soul,’ he contributed to the genesis of funk and soul music. Listen: “Say it Loud – I’m Black and I’m Proud” by James Brown

Mavis Staples is an American singer and civil rights activist. She was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1999 and the Blues Hall of Fame in 2017 for her contributions to soul music, rhythm and blues, and gospel with her family’s band The Staple Singers, as well as her solo work. Listen: “Change” by Mavis Staples and “I’ll Take You There” by The Staples Sisters

Sam Cooke was an American singer, songwriter and civil rights activist known as the ‘King of Soul’ for his importance in the development in soul music and popular music more broadly. Listen: “Chain Gang” by Sam Cooke

The Impressions were an American doowop, soul, gospel and R&B band who were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1991 and the Vocal Group Hall of Fame in 2003 for their numerous chart-topping hits and significance in popular music from the 1960s until the 2000s. Listen: “Choice of Colour” by The Impressions and “Move On Up” by member Curtis Mayfield

Buffy Saint-Marie is a renowned and celebrated Cree Canadian-American singer songwriter, musician, composer and social activist. Listen: “You Got to Run (Sprit of the Wind)” by Buffy Sainte-Marie and Tanya Tagaq

Tanya Tagaq is an Inuk throat singer and author who won the Polaris Prize in 2014 and continues to push the boundary of possibilities of throat singing and experimental music. Listen: “Uja” by Tanya Tagaq

A Tribe Called Red is a Juno-Award winning electronic dance, instrumental hip-hop and dubstep group whose music is sometimes called “powwow-step” for its inclusion of First Nations music. Listen: “Stadium Pow Wow” by A Tribe Called Red Ft. Black Bear

Victor Jara was a legendary Chilean folk singer and political activist who was assassinated at the hands of the Pinochet Regime. Listen: “Manifesto” by Victor Jara

Willie Dunn was a Canadian singer-songwriter, politician and film director of Mi’kmaq descent who was an important figure in the Indigenous folk music scene in Montreal. Listen and watch: “The Ballad of Crowfoot” by Willie Dunn

Peter LaFarge was a New York City-based folk singer-songwriter popular in the 1960s. He was most well-known for his associations with Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash, and his songs covering Indigenous struggles and histories in America.

Episode 1: Introduction to A Taste of RumSalt (June 2020)

In this first episode of A Taste of RumSalt, MOA’s composer-in-residence Alex Morison introduces listeners to his band The History of Gunpowder, plays field recordings that inspire his creative process, and shares the words of Lutselk’e Dene and Plains Cree poet, Tawahum Bige—his first Indigenous collaborator on this new musical project.

References to artists mentioned:

Alex Morison is the primary composer of the band, The History of Gunpowder. In 2019 he received a Canada Council Grant which enabled a North American and European tour, beginning with a sold-out show for MOA’s Sound House series.

Tawahum Bige is a Lutselk’e Dene and Plains Cree, Two-Spirit, non-binary poet. Tawahum Bige’s work can be found in Red Rising, Prairie Fire, EVENT, Poetry is Dead, Grain and Plenitude magazines.

Jonny Greenwood is most well known as the lead guitarist for Radiohead, and is also an accomplished composer.

Krzysztof Penderecki is a boundary breaking Polish composer well known for his haunting orchestral arrangements that created the soundscape for many films, including The Shining.